If you’ve never been to the Gulf Coast, believe me when I tell you it’s magical, even in November. This episode was recorded steps from the crystal clear water and white sand beaches, on day two of a three-day women’s retreat. I’m pretty sure you can hear the “aaaaah” in our voices.

My guest, Lecia, is one of my all-time favorite people and role models. She wins best laugh in any room, and she’s one of the only people I know who can call you on your shit while simultaneously making you feel lucky that she even bothered with you. We had a blast talking about the results of midterm elections and the ONE HUNDRED women who got elected to Congress! Woo hoo! I also got to regale Lecia with tales of my roller derby days and my love for the sport and for the WFTDA Championship tournament that was going on that weekend. Our feminist hearts were singing along with the surf.

Next, we tackled the question, “What does it all mean?” Lecia dropped some knowledge that I’d have been foolish to try to embellish on, so we moved on to the HHOF. I inducted lingerie blogger Cora Harrington, whose badass blog The Lingerie Addict has opened my eyes to the beautiful complexity and feminist possibilities of underwear. Lecia told me about Tanya Acker, a feminist she’s known since the 70s who is now a judge on the reality court show Hot Bench. Tanya recently came to Alabama to help Get Out the Vote, and seeks justice for all on and off the bench.

We laughed, we learned and we listened to the waves. It was a great day.